|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Hello the nice members of the biab club. Here is a simple composition with a guitar solo taken from Biab's realtracks. The realtracks used are as follows. String quarted 2335 RockNorthenBallad Guitar electric 2650 Brent Ev 085 Bass Na701 PopHalfnote Ev 085 Baustin 6 Realtrack Guitar 1 Choir, Oboe, Bell Eastwest The Daw is studio one 5 – tempo 4/4 90bpm If you have the time or the inclination, thank you for your comments. Kind regards Dero alias JaniJackFlash my soundtrack turn turn the world https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631/turn-turn-the-worldIf you are interested my other soundtracks https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631/tracks
Last edited by Dero13; 08/09/20 09:41 AM.
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Hi biab members,
I wonder. Why do I have no comment on this composition? It would be interesting for me to evolve to know what is wrong with this one. Is it the melody, the mix or something else. It would be good to tell me frankly because if you usually give your opinion on what you feel good, you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions.
Best regard
Dero13 alis JaniJackFlash
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318 |
Hi biab members,
I wonder. Why do I have no comment on this composition? It would be interesting for me to evolve to know what is wrong with this one. Is it the melody, the mix or something else. It would be good to tell me frankly because if you usually give your opinion on what you feel good, you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions.
Best regard Dero13 alis JaniJackFlash Howdy Derio13... First....sensing your enthusiasm, you should not take the lack of comments personally. People may be busy, not their genre to comment on or it's not grabbing current viewers. No big deal. OK....I gave it a listen....it's not a genre that grabs me and not my style of writing. It's a fine mix of instruments....nothing jumps out at me as of this listen. There a melancholy mood to it....easy listening. If you're actually looking for honest criticism I think the drums are too busy for the piece/genre. Also, I would not call it a ballad...to me, a ballad infers it's a song with lyrics. I would categorize it as ambient/instrumental.Don't be discouraged....others will likely chime in. (And disagree with me :)) Just keep on doing what you do with BIAB. ( "you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions"...that's correct, I do not)
Last edited by chulaivet1966; 08/07/20 01:25 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
Hi biab members,
I wonder. Why do I have no comment on this composition? It would be interesting for me to evolve to know what is wrong with this one. Is it the melody, the mix or something else. It would be good to tell me frankly because if you usually give your opinion on what you feel good, you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions.
Best regard Dero13 alis JaniJackFlash Howdy Derio13... First....sensing your enthusiasm, you should not take the lack of comments personally. People may be busy, not their genre to comment on or it's not grabbing current viewers. No big deal. OK....I gave it a listen....it's not a genre that grabs me and not my style of writing. It's a fine mix of instruments....nothing jumps out at me as of this listen. There a melancholy mood to it....easy listening. If you're actually looking for honest criticism I think the drums are too busy for the piece/genre. Also, I would not call it a ballad...to me, a ballad infers it's a song with lyrics. I would categorize it as ambient/instrumental.Don't be discouraged....others will likely chime in. (And disagree with me :)) Just keep on doing what you do with BIAB. ( "you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions"...that's correct, I do not) As stated above, I expected lyrics, a story. I also was looking for the bridge. It gets redundant very quickly. It needs something to break the monotony. I think, by definition, a ballad IS a story.
Google says: noun a poem or song narrating a story in short stanzas. Traditional ballads are typically of unknown authorship, having been passed on orally from one generation to the next as part of the folk culture.
Last edited by Don Gaynor; 08/07/20 02:27 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,581
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,581 |
Dero13, Choice of instruments are good and mix is ok too. But I think it is a bit meticulous. Hard to follow the line. Almost pieced together like a quilt. To your defense, I scorched through a few of your tracks in random order (5 to be exact). In my opinion this is the weakest one. So yes, you are able to do much better  This is no way to be frank, rather share what I do. Fresh example. I was working out an arrangement a several weeks ago. I invested roughly 10+ hours in it.... Then left it to sit for a few days. Came back to it...listened and put it to rest, because I felt it was fruitless. The next day, I sat down and under 2 hours worked out something completely different that talked to me and I was SOOO glad I abandoned previous attempt. Thank you for sharing and keep digging! Misha.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,081
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,081 |
It is a very pretty song. Nice arrangement. Good use of the band.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318 |
Dero13, Hard to follow the line. Almost pieced together like a quilt. Dero13....I almost made the same comment but decided not to. The above is correct....there's no real motif or musical reference for the listeners to associate with or relate to. Maybe it would fit well in the soundtrack genre. From my POV....instrumentals have to be well constructed to keep my interest. They can easily get very dull and uninteresting. So....it may be more challenging to compose a catchy composition to retain a listening audience than it is to write a song. This music writing is not easy. Carry on.... EDIT: I checked out several of your other compositions. I would categorize them as soundtrack/soundscape/ambient/instrumental genres. Not to be confused with songs....these are compositions..... and they sound fine.
Last edited by chulaivet1966; 08/07/20 04:14 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Thank you to
Chulaivet1966,
Don Gaynor,
Rustyspoon
And
Jptjptjpt
Your remarks are thoughtful, frank and well thought out. It will allow me to improve myself. It is true that the instrumental without words must be impeccable, original with many variations to hold the attention. Which is not the case with this soundtrack. But you answered my questions and it's really nice of you for taking your time to comment.
See you on your songs
Best regard
Dero13 aka JaniJackFlash
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,315
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,315 |
A good clarity to the instruments. Having the strings all to the left felt a bit off-balance (typically expect strings to span the stereo field). Other then that, the mix is good. (I thought the drums were at a good level).
As others have said, this could make a nice "background" piece, but lacks an easily discernible melody to qualify as a strong instrumental. As a background piece is quite a pleasant listen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318 |
Thank you to Chulaivet1966, You're welcome. You'll find this is a very helpful forum. NOTE: it's been said here that the "Showcase" is not necessarily a forum for song critiques but to show/emphasize the versatility of this fine BIAB progrem. Depending on one's desired response sometimes the "Song Writing" forum may be a more appropriate forum to request specific critiques/feedback. You asked for some feed back and I'm glad you received all the comments as intended. Being....candid and respectfully submitted. Carry on....
Last edited by chulaivet1966; 08/08/20 02:53 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,031
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,031 |
Second instrumental of yours I've heard today.....much different than the first but equally good!! Very nicely composed and produced!! Great work!! Take care. Greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Hi Greg Johnson,
I thank you for your encouraging comment.
Hi Chulaiveet1966
I thank again ch for his complementary analysis of my composition
Best regard
Dero13 alias JaniJackFlash
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,318 |
Hi Chulaiveet1966 I thank again ch for his complementary analysis of my composition Your welcome.... You obviously have a talent for the cinematic/ambient genre. I think I would suck at it. Thanks to BIAB I've finished up (8) songs in the last few years that would still be residing in my "Unfinished Songs" folder. (EDIT: just saw you commented on my song "Adrenaline"...many thanks for taking the time to listen/comment favorably) Keep up the good work Dero. A good day to all....
Last edited by chulaivet1966; 08/09/20 08:06 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,035 |
Hi biab members,
I wonder. Why do I have no comment on this composition? It would be interesting for me to evolve to know what is wrong with this one. Is it the melody, the mix or something else. It would be good to tell me frankly because if you usually give your opinion on what you feel good, you never or very little criticize poorly done compositions.
Best regard
Dero13 alis JaniJackFlash That is a very nice what we would call "mood" composition. Soothing but essentially background music...as one would imagine in a film. Our thoughts. There are so many new folks on the forum and many are posting multiple songs in short order. That means a song can get bumped off the front page very quickly. And often people who visited the forum do not look past the first page. Posting your song during a low traffic time can help it get responses before it's pushed to the second page. Be safe. J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Hi Janice and Bud,
I am new and still do not understand the rules of this forum very well. Thank you for your good advice and I wish you all the best for the excellent songs you post on this forum. Thanks again
Kindly regard
Dero13 alias JaniJackFlash
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,035 |
Hi Janice and Bud,
I am new and still do not understand the rules of this forum very well. Thank you for your good advice and I wish you all the best for the excellent songs you post on this forum. Thanks again
Kindly regard
Dero13 alias JaniJackFlash Hey, I wasn't referencing rules Just how things tend to work out when posting. The only forum rules are posted by PG Music at the top of the forum. Bud
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,572 |
Hi Janice and Bud,
I understood correctly but thank you for your wise advice
Best regard
Dero13 alis JaniJackFlash
Kindly regards
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.
Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.
Check out the forum post for more information.
Introducing the New Band-in-a-Box iOS App!
We’re excited to introduce the new Band-in-a-Box iOS app, designed to enhance your music creation. The Band-in-a-Box iOS app is the perfect companion to your desktop version, giving you the freedom to sketch out ideas wherever you are and develop them further when you're back at your workstation. Now, you can create, play, generate, and transfer songs seamlessly between your iOS device, and desktop.
Key Features:
- Easily Create and Play Songs – Build and play songs effortlessly on your device.
- MIDI and RealTracks/RealStyles Support – Generate MIDI tracks and RealTracks/RealStyles right on your iPhone or iPad (RealTracks/RealStyles require an internet connection).
- Notation Support – View chord sheets, professional notation, tab, and drum notation for all tracks.
...and more!
Watch the Band-in-a-Box iOS Overview Video.
Visit the Band-in-a-Box for iOS support page for more information and to listen to demos of our RealStyles catalogue.
Download the Band-in-a-Box iOS App from the Apple App Store today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows® Today!
If you’ve already purchased Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®, great news—a new update is now available! This update introduces a handy new feature: a vertical cursor in the Tracks window that shows the current location across all tracks, and more.
Discover everything included in this free update and download it now at https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1124
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator
With Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®, we've introduced an exciting new feature: the AI Lyrics Generator! In this video, Tobin guides you step-by-step on how to make the most of this new tool.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator video.
Check out the forum post for more information.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins
Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows® now includes support for VST3 plugins, bringing even more creative possibilities to your music production. Join Simon as he guides you through the process in this easy-to-follow demonstration!
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Video: Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows: Using The BB Stem Splitter!
In this video, Tobin provides a crash course on using the new BB Stem Splitter feature included in Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®. During this process he also uses the Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) and the new Equalize Tempo feature.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using the BB Stem Splitter
Check out the forum post for some optional Tips & Tricks!
Congrats to Misha (Rustyspoon)…downloaded/installed a full Audiophile 2025!
Breaking News!
We’re thrilled to announce that Rustyspoon has made PG history as the very first person to successfully complete the download and install of the full Band-in-a-Box 2025 Windows Audiophile Edition (with FLAC files)—a whopping 610GB of data!
A big shoutout to Rustyspoon for stepping up to be our test "elf!"
Thank you for your support, Rustyspoon!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics83,555
Posts767,029
Members39,353
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean